Hugh Williams on LinkedIn: How Dr Pepper passed Pepsi by marketing around football, flavor innovation (2024)

Hugh Williams

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There's been a lot of talk about Dr Pepper passing Pepsi as the #2 soda brand. What are your thoughts on the marketing each brand does? A few of my own:I remember interviewing with Pepsi 20+ years ago coming out of MBA school. They were touting their association with big celebrities like Michael Jackson, Britney Spears, Shakira, Shaquille O'Neil and others. It feels like we're a long ways removed from that now and the only thing I can remember from recent years is Ice Spice doing the Starry ad for the Super Bowl.Meanwhile Dr Pepper has gone all-in on college football and as a fan I've been relentlessly exposed to Dr Pepper advertising. I didn't love the Fansville ads at first but as they've evolved to get real players involved via NIL deals I think it's gotten more real and engaging. Their event marketing featuring the $100K Halftime Challenge passing contest (usually a male vs female) was a minor stroke of genius and I'll admit to watching several of those!While Pepsi has been busy knocking off 7up with Starry, Dr Pepper has introduced innovative new flavors like Strawberries & Cream, Creamy Coconut and Dark Berry. S&C especially has been a big hit and that always makes the ad dollars go further.It just seems like Pepsi has lost their sense of what they stand for while Dr Pepper has found a new way to express their 'disruptor brand' personality and doubled down on it. Now we'll see if Pepsi can battle back - I'm sure they have smart people and they certainly don't lack the resources!

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Dan Huse

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I’m a Pepper, he’s a Pepper, she’s a Pepper, we’re a Pepper. Wouldn’t you like to be a Pepper, too? 🎶 Ok, so I date myself with that one, and I didn’t answer your marketing question. The Original will always be Coca Cola. Pepsi was never more than an imitation of the Real Thing to me. I didn’t care who was stumping for their brand, but I do remember Max Headroom for co*ke, or should I say Ma-Ma-Max Headroom?Dr. Pepper has never had an imitator. Don’t get me started with Mr. Pibb! https://youtu.be/Ut04HnBssHI?si=PdkGzCFpyTUyi5K_

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Phil Mero

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Great take Hugh. This 'It's a Pepper Thing' ad (and campaign) is genius as well. One of the best commercials I've seen in a long time. Amazing the story it tells in 30 seconds. Opposites attract over their love of DP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVdPcrTnUu4

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